Piper at the gates of D-Day
Comments
23 4 May, 21:10
Alex KTaking a front row seat... Re the interior colour, I think it could be simply olive drab... no?
4 May, 22:31
Łukasz GlińskiWelcome Alex! I think it's something around olive drab - interior green, guessing from the reference pics.
Since I have two Piper KP kits, I'm going to exchange the fuselages between both kits - this (to be green on the inside) & the after-war Polish floatplane
(it underwent a refit, so cockpit colour is unconfirmed 🙂 ).
5 May, 09:07
Łukasz GlińskiGlad to see you on board. After some hesitation I decided to repaint the bugger on the inside.
5 May, 12:47
CuajeteOh... this kit in the year of quick projects... 🤔 😛
In any case I will follow it! 😄 😉
5 May, 18:18
Łukasz GlińskiWell, it doesn't have too many parts, you know 😄
I managed to mate the wings, fuselage and the transparencies in the second attempt - unfortunately the framing inside the cockpit is too short here and there 🙁
5 May, 20:20
CuajeteThe few pieces but warriors can make a long project anyway, but I'm sure you'll be faster than a Mach 3 😄 😛
Well done so far, Łukasz! 👍 🙂
6 May, 17:47
Thomas KolbAnother masochistic project from our friend, I see... But nice progress for sure, keep it coming! I got the Syd Barrett & co reference too.
13 May, 04:56
NicolasWow, a Piper Cub. Of course I'll be there. I was working on an original (civilian version J-3C-65) just last week. About the interior color: All 6 J-3 / L-4 I have worked on so far had glossy black tubular frames, matt black painted and often heavily faded / worn wooden floors and side consoles in exterior color. Of course, if the aircraft were used for military purposes at all, they have been registered for civilian use for around 70 years, but it is a clue. The situation is similar with the 30 or so PA-18s (civilian and military), and there are still some of them flying in German military livery. The only thing I can't really help you with is the color of the seats, as there is a lot of variation in the historic aircraft.
13 May, 05:07
Łukasz GlińskiWelcome, no crew installed, no guns, not even bazookas, sorry 😉
Nicolas, thank you for sharing these very valuable hints, I might use some of it in the floatplane build. Here, it's too late, I sealed the cockpit already.
In the meantime I left the tail in the water overnight to get rid of the masking fluid. And this is what I ended up with - no matter how much I'd have tried intentionally I'd never get that perfectly faded look 😄
14 May, 19:01
Łukasz GlińskiLatest update - the bugger flies into the trashbin. The damn Mr Masking Sol peels off with the paint 😮
I need few days of break, till the replacement kit arrives.
At least there's a chance to improve the interior.
14 May, 20:13
Łukasz GlińskiWell, I sprayed medium green first and masked the so called blotches using Mr Masking Sol. First I tried dipping the tail in the water overnight - this ended with faded olive drab. Still, the water dissolved the masking fluid. I couldn't submerge. the cockpit as there's some PVA glue inside. So I tried wetting and rubbing the damn maskol on the wings and it peels of with all the paint and primer underneath 😭
I plan to restart the project in few days.
14 May, 21:11
CuajeteI'm sorry to read that, Łukasz. I hope you have better luck next time. Maybe it's better to mask without that liquid on the next try.
16 May, 18:46
bughunterSorry! I recently heard that nearly all liquid masks contain ammonia, which attacks acrylic paints. So it attacks also Future on clear parts.
Which Primer do you use, that even that was attacked?
I'm also careful now with such liquids. May be "UHU Tac" or a "Masking Putty" are options here?
16 May, 19:01
Łukasz GlińskiThank you mates for your support. I think this Mr Masking Sol is good, but for transparencies, where nothing underneath is required 🙂
I just received the replacement kit few hours ago, so here we go again!
Not going to reuse that masking stuff here anymore, probably will brush paint the blotches.
16 May, 19:15
bughunterMost masking liquids are latex based and needs ammonia as solvent. There are some which are PVA based (same base as wood glue) but they are very hard at the end so may be problematic to remove.
16 May, 19:22
Łukasz GlińskiWelcome Guy, very welcome as usual 🙂
Bughunter, I forgot to answer 😄 so busy with the third Piper cockpit 🙂 I use Mr Surfacer 1500 - grey one in this case.
16 May, 19:42
NicolasIt's a shame that your paintwork was so unsuccessful. Better luck with your next attempt.
I've also had bad experiences with masking fluids, so I only use them to make sure that the gaps between the tape strips are really closed in complex areas.
17 May, 04:39
Thomas KolbI like your determination to finish this project even it takes two attempts! 🙂 But why arent't you just using your airbrush for the blotches? Surely it must be easier?
17 May, 04:51
Łukasz GlińskiLuckily these kits are cheap and easily available 😄
The problem with the blotches is the masking, they're tiny 🙂 I think they are tiny enough to be brush painted 🙂
17 May, 07:25
Alec KLooks like I missed some unwanted excitement, just as I am about to remove Mr.Hobby masks from my own project 🤕. Glad you recovered, taking a seat for more 👍
17 May, 12:00
Łukasz GlińskiYup, you missed a bit Alec 😄
Thomas, I forgot to mention it's a part of my planned KP collection, so there's no way I could withdraw 😉
17 May, 19:53
Ludvík KružíkThis is a truly historic piece. I'll be glad to see how you can handle an old kit from Prostějov. 😉
17 May, 21:28
bughunterIf I remember right, this kit was also included in the Eduard Stripdown Piper, but only some plastic parts like cowling, engine, wheels ... were used. The model consists mainly of etched parts.
17 May, 21:32
Łukasz GlińskiVitejte Ludviku! 🙂 It's so historic that it's hard to make it symmetrical 😄
But the float version is even worse 😄
That Eduard kit is incredible, respect to all that at least tried building it 👍
18 May, 09:08
Ludvík KružíkŁukasz, I know the old kits from KP Prostějov very well. I built them all as a kid, starting with their first model Aero L-29 Delfin up to Mi-4 helicopter. At that time they were one of the few models available. These early models were completely of KP Prostějov's own production and were quite high quality for their time. They have nothing in common with the current KP Prostějov kits.
18 May, 09:50
